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	<title>Comments on: Job Scam: Dibag Industries AG</title>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.brainhandles.com/2008/07/10/job-scam-dibag-industries-ag/#comment-7095</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serey, I was left an email from PayPal notifying me about the unauthorized funds in my account and they just paid the customer back.  If the funds are still in your account, leave them there so you don't go negative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serey, I was left an email from PayPal notifying me about the unauthorized funds in my account and they just paid the customer back.  If the funds are still in your account, leave them there so you don't go negative.</p>
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		<title>By: Serey</title>
		<link>http://www.brainhandles.com/2008/07/10/job-scam-dibag-industries-ag/#comment-7023</link>
		<dc:creator>Serey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also got this email few weeks ago. That guys is trying to convince me and already transfer $ 499.99 into my paypal account, transferring under a different name. I am suspending what he is tricking. I am not going to do with that amount of money. I will find out and try to contact a sender name a reason he/she transferred money into my Paypal account. Can anyone tell me how to deal with it? my email address is: chukfree@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also got this email few weeks ago. That guys is trying to convince me and already transfer $ 499.99 into my paypal account, transferring under a different name. I am suspending what he is tricking. I am not going to do with that amount of money. I will find out and try to contact a sender name a reason he/she transferred money into my Paypal account. Can anyone tell me how to deal with it? my email address is: <a href="mailto:chukfree@gmail.com">chukfree@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bulmash</title>
		<link>http://www.brainhandles.com/2008/07/10/job-scam-dibag-industries-ag/#comment-6988</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Bulmash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelly,

There's no way you're getting your money back from "Martin".  He's in another country and even if you succeeded at the extreme long shot of getting him arrested there and then extradited here for trial, actually recovering assets would be next to impossible and it would all take years.

You can throw yourself on PayPal's mercies.  They might be willing to reduce the negative balance, but I'm pretty sure you're going to have to pay at least some of it back.

Last, but not least, drop e-mails to the news tips addresses at your local paper(s) and local TV news.  If you're willing to tell them your story, you could save someone else from getting hurt like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelly,</p>
<p>There's no way you're getting your money back from "Martin".  He's in another country and even if you succeeded at the extreme long shot of getting him arrested there and then extradited here for trial, actually recovering assets would be next to impossible and it would all take years.</p>
<p>You can throw yourself on PayPal's mercies.  They might be willing to reduce the negative balance, but I'm pretty sure you're going to have to pay at least some of it back.</p>
<p>Last, but not least, drop e-mails to the news tips addresses at your local paper(s) and local TV news.  If you're willing to tell them your story, you could save someone else from getting hurt like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.brainhandles.com/2008/07/10/job-scam-dibag-industries-ag/#comment-6983</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately i did not do my homework and i got scammed and now have a negative balance on my PayPal account.  I have tried contacting "Martin" but of course no response after the job is done.  Now what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately i did not do my homework and i got scammed and now have a negative balance on my PayPal account.  I have tried contacting "Martin" but of course no response after the job is done.  Now what?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bulmash</title>
		<link>http://www.brainhandles.com/2008/07/10/job-scam-dibag-industries-ag/#comment-6934</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Bulmash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edward,

Not to be a party pooper, but a lot of these scams are run by organized crime.  Do you really want someone from the Russian Mafia knocking on your door, saying "so you think you're funny, huh"?  The idea is to stay off these people's radars, not to play games with them.  Playing games with them can be dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edward,</p>
<p>Not to be a party pooper, but a lot of these scams are run by organized crime.  Do you really want someone from the Russian Mafia knocking on your door, saying "so you think you're funny, huh"?  The idea is to stay off these people's radars, not to play games with them.  Playing games with them can be dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
		<link>http://www.brainhandles.com/2008/07/10/job-scam-dibag-industries-ag/#comment-6933</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got one of these the other day, and decided I would try to take the person for a ride.  I figured they would try to compromise my account, but now that I read your text, it all makes sense.  I got a paypal payment of nearly $500.  They want me to withdrawal it to my bank account, and Western Union it to them (minus my fee).  What I'll do it refund the paypal payment, and then tell them I've sent it Western Union (but the wrong location).  Make them spend money and time going to a fictitious Western Union place.  Suckers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got one of these the other day, and decided I would try to take the person for a ride.  I figured they would try to compromise my account, but now that I read your text, it all makes sense.  I got a paypal payment of nearly $500.  They want me to withdrawal it to my bank account, and Western Union it to them (minus my fee).  What I'll do it refund the paypal payment, and then tell them I've sent it Western Union (but the wrong location).  Make them spend money and time going to a fictitious Western Union place.  Suckers!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bulmash</title>
		<link>http://www.brainhandles.com/2008/07/10/job-scam-dibag-industries-ag/#comment-6922</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Bulmash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carol,

I'd normally agree with you, but there are a lot of people working in the recruiting industry for high-tech who speak English as a second or even third language.  I've gotten more than my fair share of "I have client who looks for [Name of Skill] Expert for 6-12 months contracting".

The job opportunities (not offers, just opportunities) are legit, but quite often these recruiters stumble around grammatically.

I take grammar into account, but weight it lower than other factors.  Perhaps even more than the "too good to be true" factor is the indiscriminate nature of the contact and offer that happens with these check and PayPal scams.

If a company is hiring anyone with a pulse, then even if the job is legit, it's a bad deal.  Usually, the only reason to hire so indiscriminately is because of heavy churn, i.e. the job sucks so hard that most of the people who take it end up quitting and you have to hire a ton of people to get a handful who'll stick.  Either way, whether it's a high-churn job because they're crooks or because the job sucks, you want to stay away from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carol,</p>
<p>I'd normally agree with you, but there are a lot of people working in the recruiting industry for high-tech who speak English as a second or even third language.  I've gotten more than my fair share of "I have client who looks for [Name of Skill] Expert for 6-12 months contracting".</p>
<p>The job opportunities (not offers, just opportunities) are legit, but quite often these recruiters stumble around grammatically.</p>
<p>I take grammar into account, but weight it lower than other factors.  Perhaps even more than the "too good to be true" factor is the indiscriminate nature of the contact and offer that happens with these check and PayPal scams.</p>
<p>If a company is hiring anyone with a pulse, then even if the job is legit, it's a bad deal.  Usually, the only reason to hire so indiscriminately is because of heavy churn, i.e. the job sucks so hard that most of the people who take it end up quitting and you have to hire a ton of people to get a handful who'll stick.  Either way, whether it's a high-churn job because they're crooks or because the job sucks, you want to stay away from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
		<link>http://www.brainhandles.com/2008/07/10/job-scam-dibag-industries-ag/#comment-6921</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I received the same, I hate to give away what I use as hints to garbage emails but I will.  I look at sentence structure, grammar and the like.  I figure a reputable company will do a more professional job and of course I also use the old adage 'if it seems to good to be true, it probably is'.  I may have missed out on one or two awesome opprotunities but I am sure to have missed out on several scams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received the same, I hate to give away what I use as hints to garbage emails but I will.  I look at sentence structure, grammar and the like.  I figure a reputable company will do a more professional job and of course I also use the old adage 'if it seems to good to be true, it probably is'.  I may have missed out on one or two awesome opprotunities but I am sure to have missed out on several scams.</p>
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		<title>By: Porkle</title>
		<link>http://www.brainhandles.com/2008/07/10/job-scam-dibag-industries-ag/#comment-6920</link>
		<dc:creator>Porkle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I received this same email today.  This time around, the sender was:  jozef glendon at yramer@ewa.at.   Martin's new email address is: dibagassistants@gmail.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received this same email today.  This time around, the sender was:  jozef glendon at <a href="mailto:yramer@ewa.at">yramer@ewa.at</a>.   Martin's new email address is: <a href="mailto:dibagassistants@gmail.com">dibagassistants@gmail.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
		<link>http://www.brainhandles.com/2008/07/10/job-scam-dibag-industries-ag/#comment-6919</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I received the same e-mail only my red flags were the fact that they are a German based company but the e-mail came from Canada  "cedric ariella [nymegan.mdrks@2flycanada.com]" and the e-mail they wanted you to respond to was a gmail account 
(martin.assistants@gmail.com)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received the same e-mail only my red flags were the fact that they are a German based company but the e-mail came from Canada  "cedric ariella [nymegan.mdrks@2flycanada.com]" and the e-mail they wanted you to respond to was a gmail account<br />
(martin.assistants@gmail.com)</p>
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		<title>By: kathryn</title>
		<link>http://www.brainhandles.com/2008/07/10/job-scam-dibag-industries-ag/#comment-6918</link>
		<dc:creator>kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just got it too!  I usually dont even open these emails but decided to let my curiosity take lead... 
same text but sent by joshua subhdail  and reply to dibagassistant@gmail.com.  I googled it and decided to read YOUR site instead of theirs. They sure look like money laundering to me!
thanks for being so clear and helping clean the internet !
best
kathryn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just got it too!  I usually dont even open these emails but decided to let my curiosity take lead...<br />
same text but sent by joshua subhdail  and reply to <a href="mailto:dibagassistant@gmail.com">dibagassistant@gmail.com</a>.  I googled it and decided to read YOUR site instead of theirs. They sure look like money laundering to me!<br />
thanks for being so clear and helping clean the internet !<br />
best<br />
kathryn</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
		<link>http://www.brainhandles.com/2008/07/10/job-scam-dibag-industries-ag/#comment-6913</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so glad I did my research, I recieved the exact e-mail and was actually considering opening up a pay pal account. Thank you so much for making sure we all know it's a SCAM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so glad I did my research, I recieved the exact e-mail and was actually considering opening up a pay pal account. Thank you so much for making sure we all know it's a SCAM.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.brainhandles.com/2008/07/10/job-scam-dibag-industries-ag/#comment-6905</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed!  I knew it was a scam, but I wanted to dig a little deeper and see what kind it might be.  I think you have hit the nail on the head!  When I googled the company, the first few responses seemed to be that it was a reputable german company, but I thought those could be planted websites by the scam artists.  The stupid people they are trying to fool probably wouldn't go to much more trouble than that.  When I added the word SCAM, your site popped up!  

Great job trying to help unsuspecting people!  It's wonderful that there are people in the world like you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed!  I knew it was a scam, but I wanted to dig a little deeper and see what kind it might be.  I think you have hit the nail on the head!  When I googled the company, the first few responses seemed to be that it was a reputable german company, but I thought those could be planted websites by the scam artists.  The stupid people they are trying to fool probably wouldn't go to much more trouble than that.  When I added the word SCAM, your site popped up!  </p>
<p>Great job trying to help unsuspecting people!  It's wonderful that there are people in the world like you.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bulmash</title>
		<link>http://www.brainhandles.com/2008/07/10/job-scam-dibag-industries-ag/#comment-6904</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Bulmash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got it again at 3:27 this morning at another unrelated address, only this time the sender was "Guillermo Adair" (jvix@brandintelligence.com) and the address to respond to was dibagiassistant@gmail.com.  The rest of the text was pretty much the same and the person to reply to remained Martin Rohewerder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got it again at 3:27 this morning at another unrelated address, only this time the sender was "Guillermo Adair" (jvix@brandintelligence.com) and the address to respond to was <a href="mailto:dibagiassistant@gmail.com">dibagiassistant@gmail.com</a>.  The rest of the text was pretty much the same and the person to reply to remained Martin Rohewerder.</p>
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		<title>By: Hadi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just received same e-mail with same text funny enough i Dibag industries AG into search engine and came to this website, to me its money laundering, may be but the way it sounded to me when i was reading it i was 100% sure its fraud and thanks a million for investigating all the technicalities as not all of us are able to do that.
nice work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just received same e-mail with same text funny enough i Dibag industries AG into search engine and came to this website, to me its money laundering, may be but the way it sounded to me when i was reading it i was 100% sure its fraud and thanks a million for investigating all the technicalities as not all of us are able to do that.<br />
nice work</p>
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