Comments on: Job Scam: Chalon HandMade http://www.brainhandles.com/2008/07/11/job-scam-chalon-handmade/ Whatever's tugging at my brain handles Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:20:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Greg Bulmash http://www.brainhandles.com/2008/07/11/job-scam-chalon-handmade/#comment-6956 Greg Bulmash Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:23:30 +0000 http://www.brainhandles.com/?p=343#comment-6956 Chalon itself seems to be legit and I'm sure they're aware of what's going on, but these spammers aren't Chalon, aren't at Chalon, and have no relationship with Chalon except for putting their URL in their scam mail. They haven't even hacked or hijacked Chalon's web site. They rely on people foolish enough to look at Chalon's site, say "this looks legit," and then contact the spammers back at gmail or yahoo.co.uk or some other free mail service. The problem is that these scammers probably aren't in England, but Russia. The police may consider this kind of check fraud pretty bad, but when it comes to the misappropriation of someone else's URL for use in a scam e-mail, they consider it a very minor crime. There's not much Chalon can do. On the other hand, Jet Delivery was more proactive. They had one of their people surf the web for blogs discussing the scam and post responses letting people know that they were aware of the scam, they had no part in it, and they were working with law enforcement to do anything they could help to stop the scammers. This kind of incident isn't a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_job" rel="nofollow">joe job</a> per se, because the intent of the criminals is to use your good reputation to help the scam rather than using the spam for the purpose of ruining your reputation, but you sort of need to respond to it as you would a joe job. Jet Delivery has done that, Chalon hasn't, which leaves people wondering if Chalon is clueless or complicit. They're not, but if they were smart, they'd make a point of that. Chalon itself seems to be legit and I'm sure they're aware of what's going on, but these spammers aren't Chalon, aren't at Chalon, and have no relationship with Chalon except for putting their URL in their scam mail. They haven't even hacked or hijacked Chalon's web site. They rely on people foolish enough to look at Chalon's site, say "this looks legit," and then contact the spammers back at gmail or yahoo.co.uk or some other free mail service.

The problem is that these scammers probably aren't in England, but Russia. The police may consider this kind of check fraud pretty bad, but when it comes to the misappropriation of someone else's URL for use in a scam e-mail, they consider it a very minor crime. There's not much Chalon can do.

On the other hand, Jet Delivery was more proactive. They had one of their people surf the web for blogs discussing the scam and post responses letting people know that they were aware of the scam, they had no part in it, and they were working with law enforcement to do anything they could help to stop the scammers.

This kind of incident isn't a joe job per se, because the intent of the criminals is to use your good reputation to help the scam rather than using the spam for the purpose of ruining your reputation, but you sort of need to respond to it as you would a joe job. Jet Delivery has done that, Chalon hasn't, which leaves people wondering if Chalon is clueless or complicit. They're not, but if they were smart, they'd make a point of that.

]]> By: DeNelda http://www.brainhandles.com/2008/07/11/job-scam-chalon-handmade/#comment-6955 DeNelda Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:15:21 +0000 http://www.brainhandles.com/?p=343#comment-6955 I too received their email and a check. I called the bank the check was written on to verify if legit or not. Of course, it was not. Are people really this stupid that they would withdraw their own money to give to these scammers?? Is the Chalon co. legit? If so are they aware of what is happening? These dirtbags need to be stopped and have consequences. Any suggestions, besides finding them and wringing their necks?? I too received their email and a check. I called the bank the check was written on to verify if legit or not. Of course, it was not. Are people really this stupid that they would withdraw their own money to give to these scammers?? Is the Chalon co. legit? If so are they aware of what is happening? These dirtbags need to be stopped and have consequences. Any suggestions, besides finding them and wringing their necks??

]]> By: Greg Bulmash http://www.brainhandles.com/2008/07/11/job-scam-chalon-handmade/#comment-6943 Greg Bulmash Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:46:00 +0000 http://www.brainhandles.com/?p=343#comment-6943 Adrienne, Go to the police or ask your bank if they have a fraud department that can help you. They can advise you further. Adrienne,

Go to the police or ask your bank if they have a fraud department that can help you. They can advise you further.

]]> By: Adrienne Chaplin http://www.brainhandles.com/2008/07/11/job-scam-chalon-handmade/#comment-6941 Adrienne Chaplin Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:16:43 +0000 http://www.brainhandles.com/?p=343#comment-6941 I made the mistake of responding to this check scam. I received the first check today. do I just destroy the check and tell them? Of course they refuse to give me any information until after I deposit. I asked for information like why they can't do this themselves locally. HELP? I made the mistake of responding to this check scam. I received the first check today. do I just destroy the check and tell them? Of course they refuse to give me any information until after I deposit. I asked for information like why they can't do this themselves locally. HELP?

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