Got this bogus mail just a few minutes ago...
From: Emma Dunwin-Dunwin StaffingHi Greg,
If you are still in the Business Development job market or if you are looking to expand your professional network in the Lynnwood area, here is a great site for job search and career tools.
Regards,
Emma Dunwin
Senior Partner
Dunwin Staffing
I am using Joined for professional networking and more...
Like the BNR-National scam, this e-mail used a purportedly legitimate mail service provider, bettermail.ca, to send the mail and track clicks on the links. Both the words "job search" in the body text and "joined" in the footer were click-tracked links to joined.com.
A check of the headers shows it was sent through Bettermail's servers. Since Bettermail claims they're opt-in only, either Bettermail's lying or these folks forged my opt-in.
But here's the even more damning thing. Dunwin Staffing's domain, dunwinstaffing.com, bounces you straight to Joined.com. Furthermore, if you look up the registration, it's registered by "Domains By Proxy" meaning the owner is hiding their true identity.
Either Joined.com is engaged in spammy, scuzzy promotional tactics or they've partnered with someone who is. Unless they publicly apologize for this partner and IDENTIFY this partner on their front page, I will be forced to conclude that they are either engaging in or condoning spam.
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Received the exact same email... it's phishing for info...all fake websites and links.
As the founder of BetterMail, I can confirm that BetterMail.ca is an opt-in only email marketing provider. We've suspended this account due to your complaint.
Just to throw this into the mix, cleaning out my email and came upon this note from Oct 1st.
From: Emma Dunwin-Dunwin Staffing
"Hi Susan,
If you are still in the Customer Service job market or if you are looking to expand your professional network in the Laguna Beach area, here is a great site for job search and career tools.
Regards,
Monica Beazley
Senior Recruiter
Beazley Recruiting
I am using Joined for professional networking and more..."
1) the words "job search" is a link to url http://www.bettermail.ca/ct/443/55062/2806364/6a7ee87fee5cb55d13da64189d953b3b
2) the word "joined" is a link to url http://www.bettermail.ca/ct/443/55062/2806366/6a7ee87fee5cb55d13da64189d953b3b
Susan,
Interesting in that while Keith Holloway says they've suspended the account, the bettermail.ca links from the mail you received are still working to redirect to joined. You'd think that the suspension would redirect bad links to an "inactive account" page, much like AWeber did with the form redirect on BNR-National's scam.
I decided to google the veracity of Joined.com and came across your site. This arrived in my Inbox yesterday:
Hi Michael,
I am following up on earlier correspondence regarding your job search. I wanted to touch base, given the economic situation to see if you are still looking for work in the Accounting field or any other industry. The latest postings are found here.
Regards,
Anne Carter
Staffing Specialist
Hobin Staffing
I am using Joined for professional networking and more...
7 Dies St.
Canton, NY
13617-1324
Many thanks for saving from a potential world of grief!
I received the same email. In the subject line it names the city I live in and says it is an employment update. Never heard of them. Thank you for the info!!!!
Hi Sonya,
I am following up on earlier correspondence regarding your job search. I wanted to touch base, given the economic situation to see if you are still looking for work in the Human Resources field or any other industry. The latest postings are found here.
Regards,
Anne Carter
Staffing Specialist
Hobin Staffing
I am using Joined for professional networking and more...
7 Dies St.
Canton, NY
13617-1324
TY for the heads up on this one. I always check out these unsolicited email websites and this is where I landed. kudos!
Got the exact same email as Sonya just today...
I just received this one. I was looking to see if it's a scam - sounds like it is.
"Hi Friend,
I am following up on earlier correspondence regarding your job search. I wanted to touch base, given the economic situation to see if you are still looking for work in the Marketing field or any other industry. The latest postings are found here.
Regards,
Anne Carter
Staffing Specialist
Hobin Staffing
I am using Joined for professional networking and more..."
I got this message and it's definitely looks like a scam since Niwot is a very small town with a few stores and no professional community.
Hi Katherine,
I am following up on your recent job search inquiry. If you are still in the appropriate employment market or if you are looking to expand your professional network in the Niwot area, we direct our candidates here for job search and career tools.
Regards,
Anne Carter
Recruiter
Hobin Staffing
I am using Joined for professional networking and more...
7 Dies St.
Canton, NY
13617-1324
This message sent to you by Hobin Staffing
You can change your communication preferences.
Well, I just got it again, this time from "Davieson Staffing" with a subject line of "75k+ Job Search" and signed by "Isabella Murray". I'd reported "Emma Dunwin" to Joined and got no response. Looks like the folks at Joined either do not care about this and are paying affiliate fees to a spammer, or they're behind the spam themselves. Either way, Joined and its owner Derek Firth are on my personal scum/scam list
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I got the same email this morning - I suspect it was after I renewed my resume' on Monster.com.
I received the same thing a few minutes ago. I'm glad I searched "Hobin Staffing."
Thank you!!!
Mike
I just got one of these today and Googled Hobin. It seems I get these phishing messages after I update my on-line account on either Monster or CareerBuilder. I'm with Carolyn, I think it is Monster. These scams/schemes are getting better all the time, it is good to be very wary these days
I just got the same email as Greg got. It was from "Davieson Staffing" subject: Employment Status Check-In signed by "Isabella Murray".
So I reported the Isabella Murray one to Joined yesterday and did get a response, signed from Derek Firth (founder of Joined.com), asking me to forward the message. I forwarded the whole thing including the mail headers plus a link to this page so he could see the various people complaining.
If Derek responds, I'll post an update.
Got the same thing today from Isabella Murray at Davieson Staffing. The only resume update I did today was on 6figurejobs.com, so it may not be just Monster. The website I was directed to was sixfigurecareers.com and the company, Executive Search Online, was based in Denver. It's a bit of an odd coincidence that this is the same city where another "career management" scam is located, ITS.
This is still coming out of Joined - this time through mailsender244.com which again is protected by "Domains by Proxy" - It looks like Joined.com is spamming this cr@p
I just received the same letter of person #5, Michael. It does give 2 options to opt out of future mailings.
To remove yourself from future mailings click here
Hi Candace,
I am following up on earlier correspondence regarding your job search. I wanted to touch base, given the economic situation to see if you are still looking for work in the Customer Service field or any other industry. The latest postings are found here.
Regards,
Anne Carter
Staffing Specialist
Hobin Staffing
7 Dies St.
Canton, NY
13617-1324
This message sent was to you by Hobin Staffing
You can change your communication preferences or you can unsubscribe from future mailings.
@Candace: A spammer's unsubscribe options are generally one or both of two things:
1: Fake and don't work.
2: A way for you to confirm that you open spam which gets your address on "verified address" spam lists the spammers sell to other spammers.
If you believe that these dishonest people, who are already lying to you in a couple of ways, are suddenly getting a sense of honor and offering a legitimate mechanism to unsubscribe from future spam, I've got a bridge I want to sell you.
Just got the same email from Hobin; had my town in the subject line, links to Joined; perhaps scamming and spamming using career jobs listings?
Just got an email from "phishing partner" Isabella Murray of Davieson Staffing.
I'd updated my resume on a couple of websites today and can't tell you which ones they were.... my only advice is to keep your bull**** detectors on HIGH ALERT.
I'm taking Greg's advice and won't be "unsubscribing"....
Unless a good system is put in place to rid the net from scammers, spammers and such, we will be soon backing to square one, looking at phone books and mailing letters.
Internet is becoming such a dangerous environment where you can be spied on many ways at any time in fact risking the destruction of your privacy, identity, sanity and even physical integrity. Who need that?
If even the smartest computer savvy people with help of strong antivirus/spyware software are having trouble detecting threats, imagine how safe everybody else is. (Or isn't)
My opinion if you care? We are at war, war with no frontiers whatsoever, no rules, no laws were the creepiest low life scum of this planet probably is looking at your Facebook profile right now!
You want to be safe? Unplug your computer wile you can...
By the way, I've got Ms. Carter email as well along with many other scams/spams (about 20 today alone)
Good luck guys.
Got the same email! IT'S A SCAM!
Chicago Employment Update
From: Anne Carter (annecarter@hobinstaffing.com)
Sent: Fri 1/02/09 10:26 AM
Wow! Just got phished by Anne Carter @Hobinstaffing as well. Wish I would've seen this site first....
Hello-
Just wanted to share...
I have my resume posted on Career Builder, & have received the same e-mail from "Anne Carter at Hobin Staffing". I came across these posts while searching for info about the Co.
Thanks for the info!
Message details:
Anne Carter (annecarter@hobinstaffing.com)
Sent: Fri 1/02/09 12:54 PM
Just got the email from Davieson Staffing, isabella.murray@daviesonstaffing.com, Thanks for your postings above concerning her email, subject line, Employment Status Check-In. Needless to say, I didn't update my information.
Just got the same email from Isabella Murray. DO NOT CLICK ON ANY LINK.
I only posted my resume on careerbuilder.com...so the scam people are on every jobs website.
Be very careful...SCAM SCAM SCAM
same as above, Davieson Staffing, isabella.murray@daviesonstaffing.com, let us do something about this, can we?
YIS, (yours in scouting)
Roger