Comments on: Coffee Perverts And How To Stop Them

By: Greg Bulmash

Greg Bulmash — Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:49:57 +0000

More on that, and it specifically mentions this stuff happening at the Java Juggs near my house...

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Charge-Bikini-barista-flashed-had-stripper-pole-2139390.php

By: Greg B

Greg B — Mon, 08 Aug 2011 16:45:38 +0000

And then this...

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Bikini-baristas-arrested-for-allegedly-exposing-1456813.php

The police have made arrests and filed charges after an investigation turned up evidence of baristas at all three Java Juggs locations exposing themselves and allowing physical contact in return for larger tips.

I actually believe in legalizing prostitution and don't have a problem with strip clubs, but neither should be occurring in little huts in view of the street near residential areas.

By: kamjosky

kamjosky — Wed, 30 Mar 2011 16:46:25 +0000

This lingerie thing is total BS. Not even Hooters has the audacity to clad their servers in lingerie. It is not different than serving in lingerie at a strip joint. It is just a better environment for the women. With a coffee shop they don't get off at 2am and have to be escorted to their cars.

BTW I thought Uncommon Grounds was in Ashland, Or????

By: TheOwnerOfUncommonGrounds

TheOwnerOfUncommonGrounds — Sat, 19 Mar 2011 18:19:05 +0000

I am just reading this after selling Uncommon Grounds in 2007 to a nasty buyer....It breaks my heart to read what it was turned into! It took me almost 2yrs and 100k just to get the permits to build the building! Then my mother became very ill and her healthcare ate up the finances which forced me to sell to a monster!

It was ment to be a preppy type coffee drive thru business! I never got the chance to open it due to the financial situation I was in! It would of never been a "bikini" "red light" business, as it was not intended to be! I am very sorry for anyone who had any distastefull dealings with it. That was not my dream! It is making me cry to type this!

The gal who bought it from me was in my opinion, a greedy, nasty buck hungery **** . You get the idea! I am sure she used these unsavory tactics thinking it would make her a buck, and I am sure it did, it was a gimick. But I am very glad it was shut down! I would be embarrased to tell my friends to go see the building I built, and for them to be greeted by dental floss!

And to Mimi, is there a homewrecker law in CA?? I would go after that gal and the owner of the business in a legal way, the statue of limitations is not over yet. Contact me if you need her information!

Again, I am so sorry I was unable to keep the business and make it into the decent establishment that IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN! I am DISGUSTED!

By: Me

Me — Tue, 02 Nov 2010 03:54:08 +0000

If you're going to exploit the customers of a simple little coffee shop, please go to every single nude bar, strip club and porno star in search of your "perverts" as well. Why single out the sober coffee drinking perverts when you can take pictures of ALL the perverts that ever have a sinful, sexy thought in their head?

/end sarcasm

By: Elle

Elle — Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:50:13 +0000

MIMI! Same thing happened at the SAME place with someone I know but not with Robin, with A. I'm sorry that happened to you and I hope you ditched his ass and realize you deserve better.

I dont agree with the license plate thing though. If you dont like it, dont go there.

I do think they should be LABELED more clearly. I drove through that one with my KID in the backseat. It wasnt a huge deal because my kid is small but the name or logo didnt imply I was going to pull up to partial nudity.

Bikini isnt the same IMO. I can go see a bikini at the beach. Big deal. This place wasnt a bikini, it was a chick in a thong with a mesh overlay thing. What do they do when they are on their period? Have a tampon string hanging out their thong will brewing you up a latte? It's no wonder that one got shut down.

By: Greg Bulmash

Greg Bulmash — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:15:06 +0000

"Photographing someone and publishing it with out permission is illegal. Please abide by the law." Tell that to the paparazzi who take photos of celebrities and publish them without permission all the time and without consequence. Tell it to the local news team doing a "hidden camera Investigation." When it's for the purpose of "news" or other constitutionally protected speech,you'd be surprised who you can photograph and where. If they have the money and a willing lawyer, they can always sue. But if they're in a state with anti-SLAPP laws, like Washington, they better be sure they win. In Washington, if the defendant proves a SLAPP claim, the plaintiff can be dinged for the defense costs plus up to $10,000.

By: Ray Drake

Ray Drake — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 12:22:27 +0000

Prostitution and selling illicit drugs are illegal activities. Wearing reveling clothing and serving coffee are not illegal. Comparing the employees of Java Juggs, and those who chose to patronize such a place, is a perversion pf the worst kind. America is a country in which the 'Rule of Law' is paramount.
Photographing someone and publishing it with out permission is illegal. Please abide by the law.

By: Ray Drake

Ray Drake — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 12:12:51 +0000

Please stop trying to impose your standards on other people. If you don't like the idea, don't buy their coffee.

If you do not want the people who work at Java Juggs to stand outside then, by all means, go to your local politician and raise a petition. Work within the law.

But taking photos and invading our civil right is the wrong way to go about change.

By: Barista

Barista — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:15:54 +0000

I actually was just concerned about the customers, not the business. I will always have business no matter what anyone tries to do.

By: Greg Bulmash

Greg Bulmash — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 02:40:37 +0000

@Barista,

It's actually a well-known tactic used to shut down distasteful businesses. Instead of catching the perps in the act, just take pictures of their clients coming and going. The police have done this outside massage parlors that were fronts for prostitution, neighborhood groups have done it outside houses where drugs are sold. The clients don't like having their pictures shown on the web (some police actually had public access cable shows where they showed the pictures before the internet got popular). Soon enough, the distasteful business has no clients and shuts down.

If you're afraid that a public shaming tactic that is used to shut down drug dealers and whores would hurt your business, perhaps you're in the wrong business.

By: Barista

Barista — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 01:18:29 +0000

CORRECTION. I can't believe you would take pictures of the CUSTOMERS along with their license plates and exploit THEM. You don't have any clue who they are or why they're there. Please focus all that extra attention you have on something more important!

By: Barista

Barista — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 00:58:08 +0000

Where the hell do you get the time to think of a WEBSITE to exploit these girls? WHO CARES. Do you really have that much free time on your hands to try and figure out a way to stop them? And who gives a crap about your kids! Didn't you know that's what you were getting into when you decided to conceive a child? I'm pretty sure you're going to have a lot more "talks" and they're all not going to be about a stupid coffee stand with hot girls in it. Why don't you get off your high horse and let these girls do their job. They don't ASK for your kid to look at them and if your husband is going there because he wants to see some T&A once in a while then that's your problem right? And how does that make a guy a pervert just because he wants to see a sexy girl while he gets his coffee? Doesn't that just make him straight? Just remember, those girls probably make more money in a day then you do in an entire week... can you really blame them? I in fact work at a bikini espresso stand and I love it. I don't wear pasties and I don't flash my privates to anyone. I make a good living and I love my customers! And I only TREAT them like customers. I'm absolutely SHOCKED that someone would actually want to put us in danger by putting our picture and license plates on the internet for anyone to see? WOW. It's crazy how much time and effort you people put into talking trash about these espresso stands. GET OVER IT. They're here to stay!!

By: Mimi

Mimi — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:55:25 +0000

There was a drive-thru espresso shack called Uncommon Grounds near my home in Romoland, California. I didn't even know the servers there wore lingerie until long after it had been closed down. On 9/11/09 i intercepted a text message on my husband's phone from one of the former servers there and discovered he had been having an affair with her for the past 6 months. She engaed in a 2 hour long text conversation thinking I was him the whole time. She is also married and has children. Later we actually spoke on the phone and I had a very painful discussion with her wherein she told me that her husband was aware of her extramarital sexual encounters and that she was sorry for any pain she had caused, among other painful information which I will not disclose here. I have been diligently, albeit unsuccessfully, attempting to located any other women (or men) who have had similar experiences with anyone in the former employ of Uncommon Grounds in Romoland, particularly with server Robin.

By: Greg Bulmash

Greg Bulmash — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 02:40:26 +0000

Thanks to all of you who defended the bikini coffee stands.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2009935633_webbaristas24m.html

Five baristas at a bikini-stand near my house were arrested for prostitution and other forms of lewd conduct. It's NOT the same as women wearing bikinis at the beach because these women are being paid to expose skin for a prurient interest, and to make extra money, as we see, they go beyond simply dressing in scanty clothes.