Comments on: Job Scam: Business Consultant - JCC Inc.

By: Charles

Charles — Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:37:11 +0000

Funny, how they are all out there preying on the vulnerability of the economy. I sent some inquiries to Interpol about them, they responded and will forward it to the proper authorities in that country. I actually interviewed with them (over the phone of course) and it sounded great! Right up to the point where they said they were going to pay me my salary on MY Credit Card! No check, no direct deposit, no wire transfer... My visa card! They actually asked for my Credit Card info, and they ensured me that this was a ligit way of being paid, and more companies are paying people like this that work over seas! I asked Imma, if she was sitting in the woods next to my house, using binoculars, peering through my window, to see if I had an: "I'm an idiot" T-Shirt on. As you can imagine, that was the end of the interview process. BTW, there website is no longer up or active.

By: Bob Bear

Bob Bear — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:08:24 +0000

I would like to hear from anyone who has actually completed a 'project' for this company and actually shipped any goods to Russia, (or more probably the Ukraine) or is still in correspondence with the company. The way it usually works is that the money that is transferred to your account to pay for the equipment is stolen from hacked accounts and when it is recovered by the banks you are down by the cost of the goods you have purchased and shipped to the crooks, not to mention having to face a lot of very awkward questions. This sort of scam is getting extremely complex and convincing, but the underlying principle is simple. See the Advanta TN fraud on http://www.bobbear.co.uk/ for an example of such a fraud.

By: dan

dan — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:17:38 +0000

I think this scam ran it's course. No one has written back in two weeks on this site and I am tending to think that no one ever got a project that actually paid them money. I think this was a either a college dissertation project as some of the other folks here metioned or was something that one of the job boards put together to see how these types of things work out. IN the worst case scenario it was a money laundering or goods transfer scam but I don't think that happened since the scam would have continued and all of the people who responded to the email would have been "hired" and "projects" would have been distributed to them. It looks like this kind of fizzled out over a three week period. On the other hand, maybe it was busted and they were shut down?? I was just checking to see if anyone ever heard back or responded. Since they didn't, I guess it's time to move on myslef. Thank you Greg for your help and your alert to this type of internet nonsense. I am just glad it ended before what lttle money I had was taken.

By: jorge

jorge — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:06:22 +0000

carlos, did you ever hear back from them. i think it was a nice joke

By: Jerry Vandesic

Jerry Vandesic — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:10:08 +0000

Here's another recent Washington Post article about "money mules" recruited through job sites:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/09/money_mule_recruitment_101.html

By: Jerry Vandesic

Jerry Vandesic — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:02:37 +0000

If you want to read about how this might turn out, check out this article in the Washington Post:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/11/fdic_uptick_in_money_mule_scam.html?hpid=sec-tech

By: Greg Bulmash

Greg Bulmash — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:26:57 +0000

Smichavis,

Good luck to you. You haven't busted any red flags. The initial method of contact remains questionable. So do the assignments. So does the fact that so many people got the e-mail and they all found my site and they've all reached this point in the hiring process.

So does the fact that the phone numbers on their web site don't work. So do a lot of facts. But you're going to do what you want to do. You're working really hard to convince yourself and others that this is legit despite how fishy it smells. If you end up being ripped off or helping them rip off someone else, it will all be on you.

By: smichavis

smichavis — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:56:39 +0000

First of all Greg you did say check fraud here it is in your own words..........."So while you might be on the hook for $2-4 thousand to a bank with the normal check fraud scam, if you bought and shipped $200,000 worth of computers and peripherals and the payments turned out to be forged, you could lose your home, your car, and more to pay the computer seller back for your 100% unawareness of the scam."............Second of I never said anything about them saying you have to purchase them here and ship them....I have already asked the question of weather or not you can set up a online account....But ask yourself "Whats the difference"? Weather or not you purchase them first hand or on the internet.....YOU STILL BUY THEM! Also you keep mentioning all these supposed "RED FLAGS" I just dont see them greg....what red flags....They have not asked for bank, credit or any personal information beyond home phone and address.....So again Greg what "RED FLAGS".......Also one more thing, I have a uncle and 2 friends that have worked with many company's over sea's and have both stated that the way this company has been contacting me, the emails/phone calls contracts etc....Are exactly how they work over there....I even took every single contract and email to a attorney and he stated "this is as lagit as it can get" his words exactly were there does not seem to be any signs of a scam or fraud situation taking place! ALSO, you can not find company's over seas on GOOGLE or YAHOO or BING or any of that shit.......THERE US SERVERS THERE GOING TO BASED ON WHATS IN AMERICA! Just like if you want to go to an company based in america you put .com if its a UK or Europe based company you put .uk........So your "RED FLAGS" there Greg, I have personaly busted every one of them and come up with professional input from attorneys and others who have worked over there and lived over there.....and well everyone of them state........"THERE ARE NO RED FLAGS" so quick bashing a company that you dont know anything about......wish all of you the best luck, and for that one person like me who is going to stick it out and try to take on the job.....GOOD LUCK! maybe will be working together one day on the same project! Thank you all!

By: Jerry Vandesic

Jerry Vandesic — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:29:52 +0000

If you read the posting from smichavis above, the "Advertising Campaign" looks like an obvious money transfer scam. Smichavis is being asked to move funds to the Ukraine. I am now convinced that this is ABSOLUTELY A SCAM.

By: Mark S.

Mark S. — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:14:56 +0000

I got the same email. I did fill out the application, since there was no Social Security number or Drivers License asked for I thought I would see what is was about. I knew it had a high probability of a scam when the email came with an earthlink ISP domain and there was nothing on JCC consulting on Google or Linkedin. So I knew it was bogus when I asked for an explanation and got nothing. What can you say, there some real freaks out there.

By: Greg Bulmash

Greg Bulmash — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:17:05 +0000

I never said check fraud. I'm just saying that giving a brand new employee the job of locating, purchasing, and shipping $200,000 worth of computers to Russia sounds very suspicious because re-shipping packages to Russia is a well-known employment scam. Combine that with the other red flags so far and it just means you need to be very careful, because the job assignment raises new red flags.

By: smichavis

smichavis — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:59:04 +0000

This is in response to GREG BULMASH:
Well first of all I understand what you are saying.....But what proof do you have or anyone have that they are commiting check fraud.....If the funds are transfered in cash to you which is what I have been told (and believe me I have asked 10,000 questions because of my suspicion) then right there kicks the check fraud situation in the butt. There is and has never been any talk about reimbursement or check cashing at all. Not to me anyways. Also even if the money was stolen on their end and transfered to you in cash to use to complete a task there is still nothing that can be done to you personaly. Becuase they were the original holder, now some might say you could get in trouble for money laundry but at the same time if you are not 100% aware of the situation (AND SUSPICION DOES NOT COUNT) then there is nothing that a good attorney cant handle and save you from. Second of all one thing that you have to think about is this company has been around for atleast 4 years, and this is the only site that has anything bad to say about them.....Even then there really isnt anyone talking bad about them except suspicion......So once again as long as you know what you are getting into and you watch out for the "Catch" (scam) in it all theres nothing to worry about....I personaly from talking to Sofie, Imma, Valerie, Erik, Mike and a few others have not experianced or felt anything that would be unlawful.....So ask more questions from the company and see what there answer is.

By: Greg Bulmash

Greg Bulmash — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:10:52 +0000

The "Buy 100 Macintosh computers and 20 wireless routers and ship them to Russia" project sounds VERY hinky. Seriously, why can't they go to store.apple.com and buy them online or perhaps set up an account with a major re-seller like CDW or MacMall? Receiving packages and forwarding them to Russia is one of the classic job scams. Additionally, don't think you can't get in trouble for being a party to a $200,000 fraud just because you thought you were a real employee. For one thing, your post to this site proves you were suspicious, so if things turn out bad, you're not 100% unaware, are you? Secondly, you can be civilly liable for restitution even if you're not criminally liable since you purchased the merchandise and you took receipt of it. The fact that you gave it to someone else who promised to pay for it is not the retailer's problem. It's yours, and they can come after any and all assets you have. Now, under normal bankruptcy law, your house and car (up to a certain value) would be protected as would many of your personal possessions. But if the debt was incurred through fraud, and this might qualify as fraud in a bankruptcy court, you could lose those protections. So while you might be on the hook for $2-4 thousand to a bank with the normal check fraud scam, if you bought and shipped $200,000 worth of computers and peripherals and the payments turned out to be forged, you could lose your home, your car, and more to pay the computer seller back for your 100% unawareness of the scam.

By: smichavis

smichavis — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:49:06 +0000

Hey you all! I am as well a employee of JC Consulting and have finished the employment application. I am have been offered to pick from one of 2 projects. Both are for a Russian ofiice. I recieved this email on Monday October 26th, 2009 and was told that I had 3 days to pick which project to take on, they have not called or emailed me back yet....I have sent 3 emails and called 3 times, still no response! I will post what the email stated:

> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:12:06 +0100
> From: valerie_jansen@jcolvinconsulting.com
> To: ******************@hotmail.com
> Subject: project details update
>
Hello (My Name),

So here are the details of the projects, as I promised.

The Russian Project
Objective - equip the office
Timeframe - 1,5 - 2 months
Budget - $200 000
Your bonus - 3% of the budget
Computers needed - 100
Peripheral devices needed - 20
Computer models and peripheral devices to choose from:
MB990LLA
MB991LLA
MC118LLA
MC233LLA
MC240LLA
MB420LLA
MB419LLA
MB418LLA
MB464LLA
MB463LLA

AirPort & Wireless
MB765LLA
MB996LLA
MB321LLA
MB763LLA

The process and duties:
Make a research in the nearest local stores and check the availability of desired models.
Send a report on the availability and prices, along with your choice of the model and the explanations as
to why you recommend this model (not mandatory).
Receive approval from the representative of JC Consulting.
Receive the testing budget from the Dutch office (headquarters of
Jason & Colvin Consulting)
Write and file the plan for the purchase (i.e. the quantity you can buy with the provided budget, the
price for each item, taxes and the overall sum for the purchase, deduct your bonus and deduct the cost of
packing materials).
Receive the approval for the purchase.
Purchase items and ship them to the Russian Office using the shipping
information provided by JC Consulting.

Perform these actions to reach the project objective.

Below is the information concerning the Commercial project.

The Advertising Campaign
Objective - manage funding of the Advertising Campaign
Timeframe - 1,5 - 2 months
Budget - $300 000
Your bonus - 6% of the budget

The process and duties:
Receive the testing budget from the Dutch office.
Receive the needed information regarding advertisement materials.
Write a plan for funding the advertising campaign with timelines and funds per each part of the advertising campaign.
Manage transferring funds to the Ukrainian PR Agency.
Report on all steps taken during the process.
Check the availability of funds online each working day (including Saturday).
Receive confirmation from the Dutch office regarding fund transfers.
Take part in the decision-making regarding the designed concepts of the advertising campaign.

The plan of the advertising campaign (including designing and performing)
1. Designing the strategy of the advertising campaign - $80 000
2. Choosing the target audience - $12 000
3. Designing printed materials - $ 9 000
4. Designing internet advertising - $ 27 000
5. Designing booklets and pamphlets - $ 6 000
6. Writing and recording speeches for audio commercials - $ 36 000
7. Designing signs and other visual and audiovisual advertising materials - $ 112 000
Please reply with your choice. If you would like to manage both
projects, please send me a note stating that and I will call you to discuss this possibility.

Best regards,
Valerie mailto:valerie_jansen@jcolvinconsulting.com

Has anyone else received the same projects to choose from? I myself am waiting for the $8,000 monthly salary to go through....lol.....We all no we all could use it at this point....I am going to continue to move forward with this company and see where it ends up....What you have to remember is keep all sent and received emails from the company, and your a US Citizen, there is nothing you can get in trouble for if you are 100% un-aware of the situation or scam........So take it and run with it, and if you get paid....HELL YEAH! one more question did anyone recieve a "Bank Application"? I kicked that strait in the butt and told them if they want to pay me its there responsability to figure out how to pay me not mine.....I set up a PayPal account and told them to pay me through that....They seem to be fine with it.....thay have had the information on it for I would say 2 weeks now and there has been nothing taking from me and they are still interested in me as a "Management Consultant" If anyone comes up with more information, please let me know!

Thank you,

Smichavis

By: jorge

jorge — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:37:24 +0000

I am in the same situation as you are. It is kind of strange. I am just going to seat and wait,
nothing to loose.